block people for years that want to use a domain name.

Well, I guess he’ll gladly give his house and lot to whoever complains to him of being blocked for years from wanting to use it. Ah yes, such emotional morons indeed exist.

So…you managed to eventually sell those domain names?

So define for me what you perceive “legitimate picking” of domains to be. Any dropped domain, any expired domain that is picked by someone else through a process defined by ICANN is a legitimate claim to it - that’s what I say.

What do you say Ken?

- I never defined it, you did. Show me where I ever wrote that. The only thing that means is that a domain name wasn’t stolen.

Business practices and ethics are relative to each other.

“And ETHICS might be good overall in life but when it interferes with business it becomes LESS IMPORTANT to single out.” Acro

- But now I see why you don’t draw that clear distinction.

“… seller/new owner does not have to comply in order to sell.” Acro

- Exactly, agreed.

“… companies resorting to legal action holds water ONLY in cases of trademark infringement.” Acro

- This is entirely inaccurate. Ever heard of “Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act”. It’s also a Florida statute. That’s just one example.

“A dropped/expired domain is like a job in Florida from which you’ve been AWOL for 3 days: you’re automatically laid off.” Acro

What?? I could pick this one apart all day.

“That’s not what we have here” Acro

- I never once mentioned your situation or your article. I quoted two of your guests. You were just in your situations but it was a bit heavy handed calling them “A French idiot and an American moron.”

In the same way that - as you say - the former owner cannot comply to pay the asking price, the seller/new owner does not have to comply in order to sell.

Your quotation of companies resorting to legal action holds water only in cases of trademark infringement. That’s not what we have here.

A dropped/expired domain is like a job in Florida from which you’ve been AWOL for 3 days: you’re automatically laid off.

“… In that two years, he promoted his prodserv which brought me significant traffic, where I made a few hundred dollars in the two years he DIDN’T just buy the domain for the cheap price I first offered him … this goofball lost his branding, his potential sales, his positioning, FOR TWO YEARS, because he was too proud to pay the price to recover a domain name he failed to renew.” stephen douglas

This is exactly why “domainers” get a bad rap. This needs to be looked at and understood by both sides. It’s one’s right to monetize traffic and sell a domain name that is picked up legitimately from a drop services. Yet, if this name is still someone’s company, brand or “full name” with prior usage then you also need to understand their necessity to protect that brand or themselves from any arguable level of infringement; even if it was their fault for not renewing the domain name.

Because of that, the other party cannot simply comply and pay any asking price. Once they do that, they would concede any right to claims that would have standing. This is why you see companies turning down a reasonable sale offer and instead spending thousands of dollars in legal fees.

Both sides have reasoned arguments.

Robert

Just my thinking!