Comments on: Domainers and Development: Tight Budgets or simply Bad Taste? http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:19:38 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jason http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11906 Jason Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:47:11 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11906 Great article! I am interested in attracting attention to my domains. I have a few that I opened 6 weeks ago that immediately generated traffic. Ringsdb.com receives over 800 unique visitors per month. I won in an auction a few months back, Venezia-ABC.com, which also receives around 500 unique visitors a month. The domain used to be a web site. On Alexa, it was ranked at 1,200,000. I would really like to increase the value on this domain. I also have 300 other domains that fall within loans, jobs, travel, writing, products, services and others. I continue to be rejected from Sedo's auctions, which is frustrating. I would like to share my domain inventory to possibly determine which ones I can turn into strong domains I can auction later this year. I have knighted.org, ticketdeals.org, knighting.net, loanjobs,net, grantwritingjobs,com, pastrychefjobs.net, 2danimation.org, computergraphicdesign.org, forces.mobi, graduateplusloans.net, howtobuyautoinsurance.net, autocollisionrepair.net, canyongrand.com, knightdark.com, monocular.biz and many others. I think estibot.com is a good place to find unregistered domains, but it seems to balloon the prices of many domains. My EnglandNew.com was worth $16,000 and now dropped to $6800. Sedo appraised it for over $10K. I'm not sure what to think. Should I pick 5 domains that have the most unique visitors. Some of my domains that have less traffic generate more clicks. I would appreciate any feedback. Is there any way to hire someone to help build value into domains? I'm sure they would know which domains have potential. Also, any ideas how to get into an auction? Thanks in advance for any advice. Great article! I am interested in attracting attention to my domains. I have a few that I opened 6 weeks ago that immediately generated traffic. Ringsdb.com receives over 800 unique visitors per month.

I won in an auction a few months back, Venezia-ABC.com, which also receives around 500 unique visitors a month. The domain used to be a web site. On Alexa, it was ranked at 1,200,000. I would really like to increase the value on this domain.

I also have 300 other domains that fall within loans, jobs, travel, writing, products, services and others. I continue to be rejected from Sedo’s auctions, which is frustrating. I would like to share my domain inventory to possibly determine which ones I can turn into strong domains I can auction later this year.

I have knighted.org, ticketdeals.org, knighting.net, loanjobs,net, grantwritingjobs,com, pastrychefjobs.net, 2danimation.org, computergraphicdesign.org, forces.mobi, graduateplusloans.net, howtobuyautoinsurance.net, autocollisionrepair.net, canyongrand.com, knightdark.com, monocular.biz and many others.

I think estibot.com is a good place to find unregistered domains, but it seems to balloon the prices of many domains. My EnglandNew.com was worth $16,000 and now dropped to $6800. Sedo appraised it for over $10K. I’m not sure what to think.

Should I pick 5 domains that have the most unique visitors. Some of my domains that have less traffic generate more clicks. I would appreciate any feedback.

Is there any way to hire someone to help build value into domains? I’m sure they would know which domains have potential. Also, any ideas how to get into an auction? Thanks in advance for any advice.

]]> By: Acro http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11873 Acro Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:35:18 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11873 John - That's a fallacy a lot of domainers fall for. Crappier content means hitting back on the browser or back to Google.com Jesse - Very good analysis, the idea is to get the domainers off the sticking mud of "minisites" and quick scraper portals that offer little to them and the rest of the Internet. Kate - Some known pimps have been mocked heavily - check out http://m.assdevelopment.com :D John – That’s a fallacy a lot of domainers fall for. Crappier content means hitting back on the browser or back to Google.com

Jesse – Very good analysis, the idea is to get the domainers off the sticking mud of “minisites” and quick scraper portals that offer little to them and the rest of the Internet.

Kate – Some known pimps have been mocked heavily – check out http://m.assdevelopment.com :D

]]> By: John http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11872 John Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:21:19 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11872 Crappier content = more clicks on ads. Crappier content = more clicks on ads.

]]> By: Jesse http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11871 Jesse Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:47:39 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11871 I think a lot of this depends on the individual and their particular goals. If someone has an adequate budget for quality development and has properly researched and planned for the project great things can be achieved with 1 site alone OR the same bottom line can often times be achieved by repeating simple/cheap in mass quantities. In order to make the 1-5 site plan effective we are talking about proper development, marketing budgets, professional content creation, site management and a slew of other items that a full time domainer might not have the time (or desire) to tackle. It's definitely not a "one size fits all" process. As a full time developer with a few hundred domains sitting around I understand both sides of the issue, I personally prefer proper development over the "quick easy" but I also understand the need/want for the more affordable alternatives, not everyone has and extra $15K in a coffee can buried in their back yard - Those who do, feel free to contact me ;-) I think a lot of this depends on the individual and their particular goals. If someone has an adequate budget for quality development and has properly researched and planned for the project great things can be achieved with 1 site alone OR the same bottom line can often times be achieved by repeating simple/cheap in mass quantities.

In order to make the 1-5 site plan effective we are talking about proper development, marketing budgets, professional content creation, site management and a slew of other items that a full time domainer might not have the time (or desire) to tackle. It’s definitely not a “one size fits all” process.

As a full time developer with a few hundred domains sitting around I understand both sides of the issue, I personally prefer proper development over the “quick easy” but I also understand the need/want for the more affordable alternatives, not everyone has and extra $15K in a coffee can buried in their back yard – Those who do, feel free to contact me ;-)

]]> By: Kate http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11862 Kate Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:44:33 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11862 Well said. BTW a minisite is a minisite, no matter how hard you try to pimp it up :) Well said.
BTW a minisite is a minisite, no matter how hard you try to pimp it up :)

]]> By: Acro http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11843 Acro Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:23:32 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11843 Paul - indeed, development spans a broad spectrum of online creations, however there is bad and good development. The idea is to educate domainers to avoid the pitfalls of quick and dirty development. Paul – indeed, development spans a broad spectrum of online creations, however there is bad and good development. The idea is to educate domainers to avoid the pitfalls of quick and dirty development.

]]> By: Paul http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11842 Paul Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:12:17 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11842 I was thinking today that we run out of terms after parking and minisite... Development can be anything from 'slightly better than a minisite' to CNN.com! I was thinking today that we run out of terms after parking and minisite…

Development can be anything from ‘slightly better than a minisite’ to CNN.com!

]]> By: Acro http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11839 Acro Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:33:28 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11839 Leonard - The flip side of the coin definitely exists, some developers are not domainers. Domainers that are developers by profession are often hard on themselves first. Michael - Obviously, I'm referring to these sites that are created to be self-serving, without offering any real value to the visitor. While monetization is a primary goal, if it's shoved in the face of a visitor then it does not work as well. Dan - As a developer, I don't cut corners to a project; however, it's true that a budget needs to be realistic. Quality work has a price. Tia - That's the reason why I restricted the number of domains slated for development to a realistic "5". Leonard – The flip side of the coin definitely exists, some developers are not domainers. Domainers that are developers by profession are often hard on themselves first.

Michael – Obviously, I’m referring to these sites that are created to be self-serving, without offering any real value to the visitor. While monetization is a primary goal, if it’s shoved in the face of a visitor then it does not work as well.

Dan – As a developer, I don’t cut corners to a project; however, it’s true that a budget needs to be realistic. Quality work has a price.

Tia – That’s the reason why I restricted the number of domains slated for development to a realistic “5″.

]]> By: Leonard Britt http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11837 Leonard Britt Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:08:41 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11837 You make some solid points regarding the value of professional-quality development. However, I seen often where developers place a similar disregard for selecting quality domains for their websites. As part of my link-building efforts I see all kinds of PR2/3/4 sites with domains I wouldn't acquire reg fee. You make some solid points regarding the value of professional-quality development. However, I seen often where developers place a similar disregard for selecting quality domains for their websites. As part of my link-building efforts I see all kinds of PR2/3/4 sites with domains I wouldn’t acquire reg fee.

]]> By: Michael Castello http://acro.net/blog/domains/domainers-and-development-tight-budgets-or-simply-bad-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-11836 Michael Castello Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:55:55 +0000 http://acro.net/blog/?p=366#comment-11836 Visitors have instincts. They know if a site is truly offering good content. Even if a parked page peaks their interest in a link, they will follow it. Think of it as a lemonade stand. It looks better is someone is at the stand answering questions. The lemonade looks better with new ice in the pitcher. Doesn't have to be too elaborate and the presentation works. We know what we are looking for as buyers and the same applies for us as sellers. Visitors have instincts. They know if a site is truly offering good content. Even if a parked page peaks their interest in a link, they will follow it. Think of it as a lemonade stand. It looks better is someone is at the stand answering questions. The lemonade looks better with new ice in the pitcher. Doesn’t have to be too elaborate and the presentation works. We know what we are looking for as buyers and the same applies for us as sellers.

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