Posts Tagged ‘Greek domains’

Greekfest in Orlando: When to say “Opa!”

Posted by Acro in Domains, Social issues on November 5th, 2011

It’s refreshing to see that Greek Orthodoxy in America is going strong; with 6 million Orthodox Christians in the US, young and old Americans of Greek heritage support their community through their local churches.

In Orlando, the Holy Trinity Greek Orthodox church of greater Orlando offers a variety of information through its web site.

Having attended several Greek festivals through the years, I can say that they get better and better. The food is home-made and delicious, giving that of restaurants a real run for the money. Orlando Greek Fest 2011 was definitely a success.

But not everything is authentic by Greek standards. Many things deemed as Greek are tweaked outside of Greece. To a Greek transplant, this seems odd at first but I can only say that after a while one chooses to ignore the “oddities”.

No, dear friends; hummus is not Greek. But try melitzanosalata or taramosalata instead when ordering food at your favorite Greek restaurant.

The concept of  flambeed “saganaki” cheese is unknown in the Greek mainland; the same goes for the chanting of “Opa!” when serving such delicacies at various Greek tavernas and restaurants in the US.

When dancing, and we aren’t talking about the “Zorba dance” devised for the sake of the movie ‘Zorba the Greek” in 1964, it is appropriate to cry out “Opa!” to encourage a dancer who’s performing on the dance floor. Definitely not appropriate when serving your grandma’s stuffed grape leaves, also known as dolmades.

While some attempt to deliver the essence of the Greek psyche, you need to live in Greece – and not drop by as a tourist – in order to understand and appreciate the culture, the food and the joys of being Greek.

Matt Barrett is a prolific producer of one such guide, at GreeceFoods.com and provides authentic and factual information for English speakers.

In a nutshell, those that condemn Greece and the Greeks for living life and enjoying its moments need to take a deep breath, step away from their electronic world and smell the roses.

I will now close with “kalo brady” - for “good night” – thus saving the “opa!” for when I dance.

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Internationalized Domain Names: it’s not all Greek to me

Posted by Acro in Business, Domains on January 27th, 2011

This short article was spawned by a discussion over at Namepros, whereupon a domainer listed several Greek IDN domains that he owns, seeking the feedback of native Greek speakers.

When one invests in non-ASCII domains (IDN) it is important to be familiar with the culture and habits of that particular nation that uses that language.

Popping open a two-way dictionary e.g. English-Greek / Greek-English is not enough.

It can also lead to misconceptions about what constitutes valid words and phrases, which can make one look like an ignorant idiot.

Most importantly, it can cost you the registration fees for a useless domain.

I will be blunt: don’t waste your time and money on Greek IDN domains.

The reason is simple: on the Internet, most of the time, Greeks don’t type in Greek.

Shocked? Disgusted? Well, so am I.

I love my language. Through several eons of existence, the Greek alphabet and language have evolved from the ancient times and have given birth to Latin, thus producing the range of Western languages, including English.

The problem with modern technology is that it’s adapted differently by different cultures. While e.g. the Chinese live and breathe their own language on the Internet, Greeks prefer to type words phonetically or by visual substitution into what has been known as “Greeklish“.

A while back, I wrote an article on companies that should never do business in Greece, due to their lack of knowledge of the local market’s language and social behavior.

In an nutshell: Greeks – as much as 80% of the urban population – can fully understand English content. When marketed to in English, the comprehension of the mottos, slogans etc. is almost 100%

Due to the proliferation of Greeklish – the use of latin characters to depict Greek words – there is currently no target market for Greek IDN domains. No sane Greek person – domainers excluded – will switch to Greek keyboard, type in a keyword and will switch back to English for the .gr or the .com in order to type in a URL.

The same applies to other electronic devices and popular Internet destinations: texting on cellphones, chatting on IM software, twitter, facebook, portals, forums, search engines, etc. is done mostly in Greeklish when user interaction is required.

Perhaps it’s an inherent “laziness” but it goes back to the days of early Internet and UNIX systems, before Windows 95 – when Greek students abroad could only communicate, type and chat on networks such as IRC using only Latin/English keyboards.

Furthermore, certain words that exist in the dictionary can be outdated or passé versions of modern words currently in use. Even if such a word is valid or in the dictionary, that doesn’t mean that it’s correct or useful to register as an IDN domain.

The existence of the “tonal sign” on Greek words – a slanted tick on top of stressed, intoned vowels (or their left side, when the letter in question is the 1st letter of a capitalized word) complicates matters further:  a stroked IDN domain is different from a non stroked one; you’d have to get both versions if you considered the keyword to be important enough. For the record, the non-toned version of a Greek IDN domain is the same as an all-caps version:

ΑΘΗΝΑ.com and Αθηνα.com (Athens, the city) resolve to the same domain puny code but Αθήνα.com is a different domain name. Not to mention, that Αθηνά.com (Goddess of wisdom, female name) is yet another one.

Confused yet?

I’ll spare you the nostalgia of my Internet experience during the early 90′s for another time; I’ll wrap this up by re-iterating my position on Greek IDN domains one final time: don’t waste your money on them.

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